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We Are Called Home
at the 7th Trumpet

A cross-referenced eschatological framework mapping the resurrection sequence, the intermediate state, soul sleep, relational ontology, and the pre-wrath gathering of the elect. Original scholarship by Michael Kissling.

Scripture quoted in NIV per original manuscript. · Citations link to hosted WEB text for reference.

Framework Sections

I. The Resurrection Sequence

24"Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life.

25Very truly I tell you, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live.

26For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself.

27And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.

28"Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice

29and come out — those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.

Believers Who Have Died

13Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope.

14For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him.

15According to the Lord's word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.

16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

18Therefore encourage one another with these words.

42So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable;

43it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power;

44it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body.

50I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed

52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.

54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.”

The "last trumpet" of 1 Cor. 15:52 and the "seventh trumpet" of Revelation 11:15 are the same event. See Section II.

11For we who are alive are always being given over to death for Jesus' sake, so that his life may also be revealed in our mortal body.

14because we know that the one who raised the Lord Jesus from the dead will also raise us with Jesus and present us with you to himself.

16Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day.

17For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all.

18So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

36"Now when David had served God's purpose in his own generation, he fell asleep; he was buried with his ancestors and his body decayed.

37But the one whom God raised from the dead did not see decay.

David has not ascended. He is waiting. Yet he is still his — named, known, held in covenant. See Section VI.

II. The Trumpet Passages — Synoptic and Revelation

30"Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.

31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

25"There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea.

26People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken.

27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.

24"But in those days, following that distress, “the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light;

25the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.”

26At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory.

27And he will send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.

12The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night.

7But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.

15The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever.”

This is not wrath language — it is coronation language. The bowls of wrath follow after. This is the moment of 1 Cor. 15:52 — the last trumpet, the dead raised imperishable.

III. The Judgment — Matthew 25

31"When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne.

32All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.

33He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34"Then the King will say to those on his right, “Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.

35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,

36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.”

40"The King will reply, “Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.”

46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

IV. The Luke 23:43 Problem — A Comma Argument

42Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom."

43Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise."

Original Scholarship

The Comma That Changes Everything

Commas were not included in the original Greek manuscripts. Punctuation was added by later translators — and where you place the comma determines the entire meaning.

As traditionally punctuated: "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." — The emphasis is on immediacy. This reading appears to contradict the resurrection sequence above: if the thief goes immediately to paradise at death, why is there a trumpet, a resurrection, a gathering?

The alternative punctuation: "Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise." — The emphasis is on the certainty of the promise, not its timing. Jesus is solemnly declaring, in this moment, that the thief will be with him — the fulfillment coming at the resurrection.

This reading has been submitted for serious theological debate. It resolves the apparent contradiction and aligns Luke 23:43 with the consistent resurrection sequence across Paul, the Synoptics, and Revelation. The Greek construction supports both readings. The question is where the translator's comma falls.

Going to sleep is like sinking into a dark void as the passage of time speeds around us. To the dead, perhaps a thousand years passes in a moment. "Today" may be experientially true from the thief's perspective even if calendrically distant.

V. The God of the Living — Matthew 22:32 and the Domain of Death

31"But about the resurrection of the dead — have you not read what God said to you:

32“I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob”? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."

Jesus is quoting Exodus 3:6 — the burning bush. The present tense "I am" rather than "I was" is the argument.

Original Scholarship

ho Theos — The God, Not A God

The Greek construction is ouk estin ho Theos nekrōn alla zōntōn — "not the God of dead ones, but of living ones." The definite article ho is doing significant theological work. Jesus is not saying there is no deity associated with death. He is saying YHWH — the covenant God, the one who named himself to Moses — is specifically and categorically the God of life.

The contrast implies a domain structure. Something presides over the dead — Sheol has a ruler in Hebrew thought, Hades in Greek. But that is not who God is. God is the God of the living side of the ledger.

This adds a layer to the soul sleep framework: the souls under the altar in Revelation 6 are not in the domain of death's god. They are held by the God of life, in an intermediate state, waiting. They crossed domains at death — not into death's permanent possession, but into life's waiting room.

Luke 23:43 read in this light: "You will be with me in paradise" — the God of the living, holding the thief on the life side of the ledger, until the resurrection completes what the promise began. Paradise is not yet the new creation. But it is on the right side of the domain line.

David fell asleep, his body decayed, he has not ascended. But he is still his — named, known, held by the God of the living in the intermediate state. The relational ontology and soul sleep coexist: to be held in God's hand is not the same as being fully awake in God's presence. David is his. He is just not yet home.

VI. Theological Synthesis

Framework Note

Soul Sleep, Relational Ontology, and the Sequence of Events

Matthew 22:32 — God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

When Jesus quotes Exodus 3:6 — "I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob" — he is making more than a resurrection argument. He is making a relational ontology argument: that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob still exist in covenant relationship with the living God, which means they cannot simply be dead-and-gone. If God names them as his, they must be. The covenant does not dissolve at death.

This does not contradict soul sleep. Soul sleep is not annihilation — it is not non-existence. The souls under the altar in Revelation 6:9–11 are conscious: they cry out, they receive white robes, they are told to wait. They exist. They are not yet in resurrection bodies, not yet in the fullness of the kingdom — but they are held.

Acts 13:36 tells us David fell asleep, was buried, and his body decayed. He has not ascended. He is waiting. Yet he is still his — named, known, held in covenant. The relational ontology and soul sleep coexist: to be held in God's hand is not the same as being fully awake in God's presence. Soul sleep may be like being kept in God's hand while the clock runs — subjectively, a moment; covenantally, fully his the whole time.

The sequence implied across these passages is significant. 1 Corinthians 15:52 says the resurrection occurs at the last trumpet. Revelation 11:15 declares at the seventh trumpet: "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord." This is not wrath language — it is coronation language. The bowls of wrath follow after. The saints appear to be gathered before the wrath is poured out — not pre-tribulation, but pre-wrath. The great multitude of Revelation 7:14 has come out of great tribulation — not avoided it. Revelation 21 then describes the new creation: the full consummation, after the bowls have been poured, after death itself has been swallowed up in victory.

David is his. He is just not yet home.

VII. The Intermediate State — Revelation 6 and 7

9When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?”

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11Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been.

Conscious. Crying out. Given white robes. Told to wait. This is not non-existence. This is the intermediate state — held by the God of the living, not yet home.

9After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands.

10And they cried out in a loud voice: “Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”

13"These in white robes — who are they, and where did they come from?"

14And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

17For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd; he will lead them to springs of living water. “And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”

They came OUT of great tribulation — not around it. Pre-wrath, not pre-tribulation. The gathering happens after the tribulation, before the bowls. This is the seventh trumpet sequence.

This framework is a working document — original theological scholarship by Michael Kissling.

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